Best MP3 player

[booner]

Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd be
using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)

It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some good
tunes.

Booner

[Mark]

Don't go anywhere near a Rio. I have had nothing but problems with my Rio900
M~

"booner" > wrote in message
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner
>
>

[Mark]

Don't go anywhere near a Rio. I have had nothing but problems with my Rio900
M~

"booner" > wrote in message
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner
>
>

[Wim Colgate]

II have and Iriver (www.iriveramerica.com) iFP-395T -- at 512Mb, almost too
much room :-). It came with an arm band strap and neck chain -- I only use
the arm-band....

Nice UI, pretty easy to understand -- and on a NiMh rechargeable (from
panasonic) it can go for days with out recharging (single AA battery).

One thing to note, it's not square -- I thought it was -- it is more
trangular shaped.

All in all I like it alot.

Wim

"booner" > wrote in message
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner
>
>

[Wim Colgate]

II have and Iriver (www.iriveramerica.com) iFP-395T -- at 512Mb, almost too
much room :-). It came with an arm band strap and neck chain -- I only use
the arm-band....

Nice UI, pretty easy to understand -- and on a NiMh rechargeable (from
panasonic) it can go for days with out recharging (single AA battery).

One thing to note, it's not square -- I thought it was -- it is more
trangular shaped.

All in all I like it alot.

Wim

"booner" > wrote in message
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner
>
>

[Tom Henderson]

"Wim Colgate" > wrote in
:

> II have and Iriver (www.iriveramerica.com) iFP-395T -- at 512Mb,
> almost too much room :-). It came with an arm band strap and neck
> chain -- I only use the arm-band....
>
> Nice UI, pretty easy to understand -- and on a NiMh rechargeable (from
> panasonic) it can go for days with out recharging (single AA battery).
>
> One thing to note, it's not square -- I thought it was -- it is more
> trangular shaped.
>
> All in all I like it alot.
>
> Wim
>
> "booner" > wrote in message
> news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
>> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and
>> was curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so
>> many)? I'd
> be
>> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>>
>> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from
>> some
> good
>> tunes.
>>
>> Booner
>>
>>
>
>
>

Glad to hear it. After deciding an i-pod was overkill, this is what I
ended up getting my wife for x-mas.

Side note: I hope you aren't running or riding the roads with earphones
on. It's not a great idea.

Tom

[Tom Henderson]

"Wim Colgate" > wrote in
:

> II have and Iriver (www.iriveramerica.com) iFP-395T -- at 512Mb,
> almost too much room :-). It came with an arm band strap and neck
> chain -- I only use the arm-band....
>
> Nice UI, pretty easy to understand -- and on a NiMh rechargeable (from
> panasonic) it can go for days with out recharging (single AA battery).
>
> One thing to note, it's not square -- I thought it was -- it is more
> trangular shaped.
>
> All in all I like it alot.
>
> Wim
>
> "booner" > wrote in message
> news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
>> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and
>> was curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so
>> many)? I'd
> be
>> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>>
>> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from
>> some
> good
>> tunes.
>>
>> Booner
>>
>>
>
>
>

Glad to hear it. After deciding an i-pod was overkill, this is what I
ended up getting my wife for x-mas.

Side note: I hope you aren't running or riding the roads with earphones
on. It's not a great idea.

Tom

[Tom Henderson]

"Wim Colgate" > wrote in
:

> II have and Iriver (www.iriveramerica.com) iFP-395T -- at 512Mb,
> almost too much room :-). It came with an arm band strap and neck
> chain -- I only use the arm-band....
>
> Nice UI, pretty easy to understand -- and on a NiMh rechargeable (from
> panasonic) it can go for days with out recharging (single AA battery).
>
> One thing to note, it's not square -- I thought it was -- it is more
> trangular shaped.
>
> All in all I like it alot.
>
> Wim
>
> "booner" > wrote in message
> news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
>> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and
>> was curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so
>> many)? I'd
> be
>> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>>
>> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from
>> some
> good
>> tunes.
>>
>> Booner
>>
>>
>
>
>

Glad to hear it. After deciding an i-pod was overkill, this is what I
ended up getting my wife for x-mas.

Side note: I hope you aren't running or riding the roads with earphones
on. It's not a great idea.

Tom

[Tom Henderson]

"Wim Colgate" > wrote in
:

> II have and Iriver (www.iriveramerica.com) iFP-395T -- at 512Mb,
> almost too much room :-). It came with an arm band strap and neck
> chain -- I only use the arm-band....
>
> Nice UI, pretty easy to understand -- and on a NiMh rechargeable (from
> panasonic) it can go for days with out recharging (single AA battery).
>
> One thing to note, it's not square -- I thought it was -- it is more
> trangular shaped.
>
> All in all I like it alot.
>
> Wim
>
> "booner" > wrote in message
> news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
>> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and
>> was curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so
>> many)? I'd
> be
>> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>>
>> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from
>> some
> good
>> tunes.
>>
>> Booner
>>
>>
>
>
>

Glad to hear it. After deciding an i-pod was overkill, this is what I
ended up getting my wife for x-mas.

Side note: I hope you aren't running or riding the roads with earphones
on. It's not a great idea.

Tom

[Kai Baumgartner]

"booner" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner


on a road bike i use apple ipod 40gb. it is a big heavy, but contains many
features.

--
kind regards kai baumgartner
[ valid and working email can be found here: www.3athlon.de or
www.lightweight-premium-dealer.com ]

[Kai Baumgartner]

"booner" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner


on a road bike i use apple ipod 40gb. it is a big heavy, but contains many
features.

--
kind regards kai baumgartner
[ valid and working email can be found here: www.3athlon.de or
www.lightweight-premium-dealer.com ]

[Rivermist]

I am very happy with my RCA Lyra. Have had it for over a year and use it
while running.

"booner" > wrote in message
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner
>
>

[Rivermist]

I am very happy with my RCA Lyra. Have had it for over a year and use it
while running.

"booner" > wrote in message
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner
>
>

[Ryan Bates]

very happy with my IRiver, though you should probably get at least 128
memory so you don't have to play the same songs over like me! and, i
put plastic cling wrap around mine when i work out to keep sweat out
of it.

"Rivermist" > wrote in message news:<1lzxb.237321$mZ5.1793604@attbi_s54>...
> I am very happy with my RCA Lyra. Have had it for over a year and use it
> while running.
>
> "booner" > wrote in message
> news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> > Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> > curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
> be
> > using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
> >
> > It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
> good
> > tunes.
> >
> > Booner
> >
> >

[Ryan Bates]

very happy with my IRiver, though you should probably get at least 128
memory so you don't have to play the same songs over like me! and, i
put plastic cling wrap around mine when i work out to keep sweat out
of it.

"Rivermist" > wrote in message news:<1lzxb.237321$mZ5.1793604@attbi_s54>...
> I am very happy with my RCA Lyra. Have had it for over a year and use it
> while running.
>
> "booner" > wrote in message
> news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> > Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> > curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
> be
> > using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
> >
> > It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
> good
> > tunes.
> >
> > Booner
> >
> >

[Cletus75]

I've also got an iFP series iRiver (but just a cheapy 180T).
Great purchase for exercise - very happy with it, particularly
the FM reception

Cletus



--

[Cletus75]

I've also got an iFP series iRiver (but just a cheapy 180T).
Great purchase for exercise - very happy with it, particularly
the FM reception

Cletus



--

[Chris Maginn]

I couldn't disagree more. I purchased Rio's for my wife and I and
have also updated each with 256mb of memory (memory available even at
Costco for about 40 bucks). The 128mb version of the Rio upgraded to
256 will be good for 80-90 songs. The newest software for downloading
is easy to use. Both have worked very well..no trouble. We chose
flash memory devices for durability reasons.

PS: The newest Rio just got a PC Magazine's Editors Choice Award

In the hard drive genre you might check out the new Dell models. They
have been well received and are easier to use with Windows than the
IPod.

Here's the link to PCMag.com's MP3 player product reviews:
http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,4148,2359,00.asp


"Mark" > wrote in message >...
> Don't go anywhere near a Rio. I have had nothing but problems with my Rio900
> M~
>

[Chris Maginn]

I couldn't disagree more. I purchased Rio's for my wife and I and
have also updated each with 256mb of memory (memory available even at
Costco for about 40 bucks). The 128mb version of the Rio upgraded to
256 will be good for 80-90 songs. The newest software for downloading
is easy to use. Both have worked very well..no trouble. We chose
flash memory devices for durability reasons.

PS: The newest Rio just got a PC Magazine's Editors Choice Award

In the hard drive genre you might check out the new Dell models. They
have been well received and are easier to use with Windows than the
IPod.

Here's the link to PCMag.com's MP3 player product reviews:
http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,4148,2359,00.asp


"Mark" > wrote in message >...
> Don't go anywhere near a Rio. I have had nothing but problems with my Rio900
> M~
>

[Witheld]

"Rivermist" > wrote in message news:<1lzxb.237321$mZ5.1793604@attbi_s54>...
> I am very happy with my RCA Lyra. Have had it for over a year and use it
> while running.
> <Snipped by rsquared>

I also purchased an RCA Lyra. I really only use it for the
mag-trainer in the garage. I have had some setbacks that probably
apply to ALL makes & models, specifically:

My PC is an Intel P2, with a little over 300 MB RAM. Although the
documentation says Windows 98SE is supported by the MP3 creation App,
it can be a little unstable and time consuming.

A standard memory chip upgrade is available, but I have not purchased
one; I just don't use it for extended periods.

This was my first "personal-music-device", so I went conservative. It
was very reasonably priced. I think it was around $80 at my local
Walmart.

rsquared

[Witheld]

"Rivermist" > wrote in message news:<1lzxb.237321$mZ5.1793604@attbi_s54>...
> I am very happy with my RCA Lyra. Have had it for over a year and use it
> while running.
> <Snipped by rsquared>

I also purchased an RCA Lyra. I really only use it for the
mag-trainer in the garage. I have had some setbacks that probably
apply to ALL makes & models, specifically:

My PC is an Intel P2, with a little over 300 MB RAM. Although the
documentation says Windows 98SE is supported by the MP3 creation App,
it can be a little unstable and time consuming.

A standard memory chip upgrade is available, but I have not purchased
one; I just don't use it for extended periods.

This was my first "personal-music-device", so I went conservative. It
was very reasonably priced. I think it was around $80 at my local
Walmart.

rsquared

[Mark]

Well, speaking from my own experiences with the product:

I have never gotten more than 2.5 hours of life from the recharegeable
battery. And they say it should be good for over 11 hours. And that is with
all the options turned off.
One day the Rio decided that it no longer wanted to have a capacity for 190
megs. It now wanted to give me 250 megs. Then one day after that, it decided
it wanted to go back to 190 megs, however, it insisted that 40megs were in
use even though nothing was on the player itself. So now my 190 meg MP3
player is only a 150 meg player.
If I use the WMA file format, the songs "skip".

I imagine I got a lemon, but in my opinion, a company only gets one shot to
show off their product to me.

"Chris Maginn" > wrote in message
om...
> I couldn't disagree more. I purchased Rio's for my wife and I and
> have also updated each with 256mb of memory (memory available even at
> Costco for about 40 bucks). The 128mb version of the Rio upgraded to
> 256 will be good for 80-90 songs. The newest software for downloading
> is easy to use. Both have worked very well..no trouble. We chose
> flash memory devices for durability reasons.
>
> PS: The newest Rio just got a PC Magazine's Editors Choice Award
>
> In the hard drive genre you might check out the new Dell models. They
> have been well received and are easier to use with Windows than the
> IPod.
>
> Here's the link to PCMag.com's MP3 player product reviews:
> http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,4148,2359,00.asp
>
>
> "Mark" > wrote in message
>...
> > Don't go anywhere near a Rio. I have had nothing but problems with my
Rio900
> > M~
> >

[Mark]

Well, speaking from my own experiences with the product:

I have never gotten more than 2.5 hours of life from the recharegeable
battery. And they say it should be good for over 11 hours. And that is with
all the options turned off.
One day the Rio decided that it no longer wanted to have a capacity for 190
megs. It now wanted to give me 250 megs. Then one day after that, it decided
it wanted to go back to 190 megs, however, it insisted that 40megs were in
use even though nothing was on the player itself. So now my 190 meg MP3
player is only a 150 meg player.
If I use the WMA file format, the songs "skip".

I imagine I got a lemon, but in my opinion, a company only gets one shot to
show off their product to me.

"Chris Maginn" > wrote in message
om...
> I couldn't disagree more. I purchased Rio's for my wife and I and
> have also updated each with 256mb of memory (memory available even at
> Costco for about 40 bucks). The 128mb version of the Rio upgraded to
> 256 will be good for 80-90 songs. The newest software for downloading
> is easy to use. Both have worked very well..no trouble. We chose
> flash memory devices for durability reasons.
>
> PS: The newest Rio just got a PC Magazine's Editors Choice Award
>
> In the hard drive genre you might check out the new Dell models. They
> have been well received and are easier to use with Windows than the
> IPod.
>
> Here's the link to PCMag.com's MP3 player product reviews:
> http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,4148,2359,00.asp
>
>
> "Mark" > wrote in message
>...
> > Don't go anywhere near a Rio. I have had nothing but problems with my
Rio900
> > M~
> >

[Bill Thomas]

The Nike PSA works well for me. It doesn't have an FM radio but it is very
durable. I have the PSA 64 (which they don't sell anymore) and can squeeze
a little over an hours worth of music on it. With the PSA128 or PSA256 you
should have more than enough music for a workout.

"booner" > wrote in message
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner
>
>

[Bill Thomas]

The Nike PSA works well for me. It doesn't have an FM radio but it is very
durable. I have the PSA 64 (which they don't sell anymore) and can squeeze
a little over an hours worth of music on it. With the PSA128 or PSA256 you
should have more than enough music for a workout.

"booner" > wrote in message
news:Ta7xb.116153$Dw6.538123@attbi_s02...
> Finally going to break down and get an MP3 player (with FM tuner) and was
> curious if anyone would have any recommendations (there are so many)? I'd
be
> using it during my training so it needs to be tough :-)
>
> It certainly helps the training to get a little extra energy from some
good
> tunes.
>
> Booner
>
>

[Abeeku Paulos]

I'm a liitle disappointed with the Rio Cali. I was attracted by its
aesthetics (Black and OD Green color, sporty rubber/plastic chassis),
its functionality (belt clip and arm band), its non-proprietary
standard interfaces (USB 1.1 and SD/MMC), and its reputation (Rio 500,
et al). However, it does NOT permit the use of the SD/MMC card for
transfer, only storage.

The SD/MMC does not use FAT (and I believe it does not use ext2
either, at least my zaurus PDA can't detect it). Therefore one is not
able to use a laptop SD/PCMCIA port directly to put songs onto the
card -- the USB cable must be used.

I had hoped to purchase several SD cards so that I could swap them out
when I want to hear something else. But it seems that the SD memory
is merged with the internal memory and that any swapping will "break"
the file system.

Another design flaw (or "feature") is that in order to
add/remove/replace the SD card one has to:
- open the battery compartment
- remove the AAA cell
- remove the SD/MM card
- replace the AAA cell
- reinstall the battery compartment cover
- reset the internal clock (or else it will display the wrong time and
date - Jan 01 midnight)

I also don't like having to reset the time whenever I replace the
batteries every other day.

It also throw every track into a flat file system (no visible
subdirectories) and it does NOT allow album play. A computer must be
used to manually create a playlist for each album or you will have to
hear your Fleetwood Mac interspersed with your Youssou Ndour,
Beethoven, Tilahun, and Guthrie.
On the positive: battery life is excellent, well over 11 hours for one
AAA (I've accidently left mine on for over 24 hours and it was still
playing)

[Abeeku Paulos]

I'm a liitle disappointed with the Rio Cali. I was attracted by its
aesthetics (Black and OD Green color, sporty rubber/plastic chassis),
its functionality (belt clip and arm band), its non-proprietary
standard interfaces (USB 1.1 and SD/MMC), and its reputation (Rio 500,
et al). However, it does NOT permit the use of the SD/MMC card for
transfer, only storage.

The SD/MMC does not use FAT (and I believe it does not use ext2
either, at least my zaurus PDA can't detect it). Therefore one is not
able to use a laptop SD/PCMCIA port directly to put songs onto the
card -- the USB cable must be used.

I had hoped to purchase several SD cards so that I could swap them out
when I want to hear something else. But it seems that the SD memory
is merged with the internal memory and that any swapping will "break"
the file system.

Another design flaw (or "feature") is that in order to
add/remove/replace the SD card one has to:
- open the battery compartment
- remove the AAA cell
- remove the SD/MM card
- replace the AAA cell
- reinstall the battery compartment cover
- reset the internal clock (or else it will display the wrong time and
date - Jan 01 midnight)

I also don't like having to reset the time whenever I replace the
batteries every other day.

It also throw every track into a flat file system (no visible
subdirectories) and it does NOT allow album play. A computer must be
used to manually create a playlist for each album or you will have to
hear your Fleetwood Mac interspersed with your Youssou Ndour,
Beethoven, Tilahun, and Guthrie.
On the positive: battery life is excellent, well over 11 hours for one
AAA (I've accidently left mine on for over 24 hours and it was still
playing)