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Kev
October 3rd 04, 03:25 PM
Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.

Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
energy?
Thanks.

Art S
October 3rd 04, 04:05 PM
"Kev" > wrote in message om...
> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
> energy?
> Thanks.

If you're tired and lagging all day, then try to find the cause.

Some potential causes: not enough sleep, not enjoying what you are doing
(so you try to avoid doing it), depression, low thyroid,...

Art

Kevin J. Coolidge
October 3rd 04, 04:39 PM
"Kev" > wrote in message
om...
> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
> energy?
> Thanks.

You do need to be a little more specific. I'd make sure you were eating well
and getting enough rest before turning to supplements for energy. Most
things that "give" you energy that are drug like in for-such as caffeine.
Make you pay the price later in how it affects sleep paterns or that "crash"
you feel after a caffeine buzz or sugar buzz.

Lyle McDonald
October 3rd 04, 05:13 PM
Kev wrote:

> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
> energy?
> Thanks.

Crystal meth will work wonders.

Lyle

Proton Soup
October 3rd 04, 05:34 PM
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 15:05:09 GMT, "Art S" >
wrote:

>
>"Kev" > wrote in message om...
>> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
>> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>>
>> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
>> energy?
>> Thanks.
>
>If you're tired and lagging all day, then try to find the cause.
>
>Some potential causes: not enough sleep, not enjoying what you are doing
>(so you try to avoid doing it), depression, low thyroid,...

But caffeine and ephedrine can be effective at treating mild
depression.

-----------
Proton Soup

"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum."

John Hanson
October 3rd 04, 06:02 PM
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:13:31 -0600, Lyle McDonald
> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>Kev wrote:
>
>> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
>> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>>
>> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
>> energy?
>> Thanks.
>
>Crystal meth will work wonders.
>
Beat me to it. I was also going to mention that some people suffer
psychosis from it though.

Will Brink
October 3rd 04, 06:07 PM
In article >,
(Kev) wrote:

> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
> energy?

Yes, we call it...drum roll....coffee.

> Thanks.

--
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Daniel Clough
October 3rd 04, 09:11 PM
(Kev) wrote in message >...
> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
> energy?
> Thanks.


Have you considered sleeping more ;)

Whats your current sleep pattern like?

Whats your current diet like?

Are you stressed at all?

How often do you train?

All of these can have an effect on energy levels.

Of course supplements can help. In fact a therogenic could be what you
are after. Something to give you a little help. However I would focus
on asking yourself the questions above also.

Daniel

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Lordy
October 3rd 04, 09:18 PM
(Kev) wrote in
om:

> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
> energy?
> Thanks.


What kind of food do you eat?

--
Lordy

Dally
October 3rd 04, 09:29 PM
Kev wrote:

> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.

It's good that you're noticing this. Are you ready to solve it?
Because the first step is to get to bed earlier. If you start
complaining that you can't possibly do that, then you're just here
complaining. All the other steps come after this one.

> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost their
> energy?

Yes.

> Thanks.

You're welcome.

Dally

Tiger Hillside
October 4th 04, 04:24 AM
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 12:02:23 -0500, John Hanson
> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:13:31 -0600, Lyle McDonald
> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>
>>Kev wrote:
>>
>>> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
>>> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>>>
>>> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
>>> energy?
>>> Thanks.
>>
>>Crystal meth will work wonders.
>>
>Beat me to it. I was also going to mention that some people suffer
>psychosis from it though.

Is that considered a benefit or a problem?

Tiger Hillside
October 4th 04, 04:26 AM
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:29:33 -0400, Dally > wrote:

>Kev wrote:
>
>> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
>> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
>It's good that you're noticing this. Are you ready to solve it?
>Because the first step is to get to bed earlier. If you start
>complaining that you can't possibly do that, then you're just here
>complaining. All the other steps come after this one.

It is amazing how much lack of sleep can affect you. And it is amazing
how hard it is, even after you realize this, it can be to get enough
sleep. But you are right, it is the first step. That it is hard does
not mean you can put it off. (Then comes enough of the right food,
enough water, and enough exercise and/or rest. Then you can try fancy
stuff.)

>> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost their
>> energy?
>
>Yes.
>
>> Thanks.
>
>You're welcome.
>
>Dally

Helgi Briem
October 4th 04, 01:59 PM
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:29:33 -0400, Dally > wrote:

>Kev wrote:
>> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need
>> more energy in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
>It's good that you're noticing this. Are you ready to solve it?
>Because the first step is to get to bed earlier. If you start
>complaining that you can't possibly do that, then you're just here
>complaining. All the other steps come after this one.

This is what I tell all the kids (twenty somethings) at
work who keep complaining of tiredness and lack of
energy. They wonder how I have the energy to lift,
swim, walk everywhere, play in a band and read 3
books a week. I tell them I go to sleep before 11 every
night and get up at 7 and they think that's way too hard.

--
Helgi Briem hbriem AT simnet DOT is

"Don't worry about it, son. God is just messing with your head."

the tree by the river
October 4th 04, 02:14 PM
In article >,
Kev > wrote:
>
>Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
>in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
>Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
>energy?

I've had some success, though usually not repeatedly. (I tend to work
like that--even with medications, I tend to respond to them not at all
(like painkillers) or only once and then they never have any effect
ever again.)

Choline was one, and I've known other people who felt like they were
more energetic when taking choline supplements. Coenzyme Q10, at
least in the larger doses, seemed to have a more subtle energizing
effect.

I think I still feel some benefit to taking 3-5 grams of l-carnitine
before a half-century or longer bike ride, but I can't say that it
has any effect when you're just sitting around or for non-endurance
activities.

A spoonful of tyrosine taken with ephedrine and caffeine on an empty
stomach might also be worth a try.

I've tried various other herbs and supplements that other people have
raved about over the years and I can't say that I experienced any
effect from any of the others, but, as mentioned before, my body
does pretty much what it has decided to do and resists any attempts
to get it to change its ways.

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the tree by the river
October 4th 04, 02:21 PM
In article >,
Helgi Briem > wrote:
>On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:29:33 -0400, Dally > wrote:
>>Kev wrote:
>>
>>> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need
>>> more energy in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>>
>>It's good that you're noticing this. Are you ready to solve it?
>>Because the first step is to get to bed earlier. If you start
>>complaining that you can't possibly do that, then you're just here
>>complaining. All the other steps come after this one.
>
>This is what I tell all the kids (twenty somethings) at
>work who keep complaining of tiredness and lack of
>energy. They wonder how I have the energy to lift,
>swim, walk everywhere, play in a band and read 3
>books a week. I tell them I go to sleep before 11 every
>night and get up at 7 and they think that's way too hard.

Just to be contrary, my experience has been that the better I've
felt and the more energy I had, the less I was sleeping. (I phrase
it that way because I think the causality goes in that direction
more than the reverse.) When I'm feeling good, I tend to sleep
four hours a night or less; if I'm getting eight or more, it's
when I'm just dragging through the day.

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Helgi Briem
October 4th 04, 03:08 PM
On 4 Oct 2004 07:21:08 -0600, (the tree by the river)
wrote:
>>This is what I tell all the kids (twenty somethings) at
>>work who keep complaining of tiredness and lack of
>>energy. They wonder how I have the energy to lift,
>>swim, walk everywhere, play in a band and read 3
>>books a week. I tell them I go to sleep before 11 every
>>night and get up at 7 and they think that's way too hard.
>
>Just to be contrary, my experience has been that the better I've
>felt and the more energy I had, the less I was sleeping. (I phrase
>it that way because I think the causality goes in that direction
>more than the reverse.) When I'm feeling good, I tend to sleep
>four hours a night or less; if I'm getting eight or more, it's
>when I'm just dragging through the day.

Well, for most people, I'd say 4 hours sleep is not enough.
You can get by on it for short periods, but most people
cannot for long. I feel like death warmed over after a
week of 4 hour nights. It's happened a few times.

These kids are playing computer games until 4 in the
morning, then waking up at 10 to go to work. They survive
on coke and pizza and never exercise and wonder why
they have no energy to do anything.

--
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"Don't worry about it, son. God is just messing with your head."

Bob Falooley
October 4th 04, 04:35 PM
Kev wrote:

> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
> in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
> Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
> energy?
> Thanks.

Eat more oatmeal.

--Falooley

John M. Williams
October 4th 04, 06:21 PM
(the tree by the river) wrote:
>Helgi Briem > wrote:
>> Dally > wrote:
>>>Kev wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need
>>>> more energy in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>>>
>>>It's good that you're noticing this. Are you ready to solve it?
>>>Because the first step is to get to bed earlier. If you start
>>>complaining that you can't possibly do that, then you're just here
>>>complaining. All the other steps come after this one.
>>
>>This is what I tell all the kids (twenty somethings) at
>>work who keep complaining of tiredness and lack of
>>energy. They wonder how I have the energy to lift,
>>swim, walk everywhere, play in a band and read 3
>>books a week. I tell them I go to sleep before 11 every
>>night and get up at 7 and they think that's way too hard.
>
>Just to be contrary, my experience has been that the better I've
>felt and the more energy I had, the less I was sleeping. (I phrase
>it that way because I think the causality goes in that direction
>more than the reverse.) When I'm feeling good, I tend to sleep
>four hours a night or less; if I'm getting eight or more, it's
>when I'm just dragging through the day.

I always had the impression that you didn't sleep at all.

Charlie
October 4th 04, 09:06 PM
On 3 Oct 2004 07:25:39 -0700, (Kev) wrote:

>Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
>in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
>Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
>energy?
>Thanks.

Eating clean allways boosts my energy level. The worst is fast foods,
makes me very sluggish.

Try, steamed vegetables, fruits, meat, good carbs. All in moderation,
several times a day. and drink lots of water.

Works for me.

Rural living is good living
October 5th 04, 04:51 AM
>>Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
>>energy?
>>Thanks.

10,000,000s of Americans use coffee, tea, and soda to increase energy levels.

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October 6th 04, 02:38 AM
In article >,
the tree by the river > wrote:

>Just to be contrary, my experience has been that the better I've
>felt and the more energy I had, the less I was sleeping. (I phrase
>it that way because I think the causality goes in that direction
>more than the reverse.) When I'm feeling good, I tend to sleep
>four hours a night or less; if I'm getting eight or more, it's
>when I'm just dragging through the day.

The question is how to get to there from here.

If I get enough sleep for a few days and a lot of exercise, then the
amount of sleep I need starts dropping; but if I start with a sleep
deficit, exercise will only keep me more tired until I catch up.

Seth
--
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Axel of the North!
October 9th 04, 08:37 AM
On 3 Oct 2004 07:25:39 -0700, (Kev) wrote:

>Not only could I use more energy for my workouts, I need more energy
>in general. I find myself tired and lagging all day.
>
>Has anyone had success with any supplements to help really boost there
>energy?
>Thanks.

hey, kev.

have you tried experimenting with food combining?

i know there are numerous food-combining plans.. so.. have you
discovered any particular combinations of foods/macros that are
conducive or unconducive to efficient, energy-giving digestive
processes?

what about some bulk ginseng powders at those trendy HFSs and herbal
shops? i think i had some siberian kind, it was pricey but 20 dollars
worth has lasted me a number of years.. if i take shy of a quarter of
a teaspoon (measuring teaspoon) in the morning it will definently
support me throughtout the day.