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oelf92
September 23rd 06, 03:35 PM
I was going to start taking Arginine before my workouts and went the the
local Vitamin Shoppe. The guy working there said that instead of just
taking straight Arginine to take the combination of Arginine and Ornithine.
So I bought 500mg Arginine / 250mg ornithine combo capsules. Any input on
the
combiination or difference? Also I read that i should take about 3mg before
working out of Arginine but the bottle states the dose is 1 capsule. Need
some input...

Thanks!

Curt James
September 24th 06, 02:43 AM
oelf92 wrote:
> I was going to start taking Arginine before my workouts
> and went the the local Vitamin Shoppe. The guy working
> there said that instead of just taking straight Arginine to
> take the combination of Arginine and Ornithine.
> So I bought 500mg Arginine / 250mg ornithine combo
> capsules. Any input on the combiination or difference?
> Also I read that i should take about 3mg before working
> out of Arginine but the bottle states the dose is 1 capsule.
> Need some input...
>
> Thanks!

I've read at least one article on Arginine to Ornithine ratios while
employeed by GNC. No cite, but I will say that regardless of the number
of mg or the ratio, I didn't notice the boost or positive results as
mentioned in the magazine.

Re dose recommendation, haven't you ever taken a Tylenol - what 500 mg?
And then noticed the stuff the doctor gives you is 800 mg or more?
That's a drug while Arg is an amino acid. And certainly the recommended
dose of Arg is not something that's set in stone.

http://www.arginineresearch.com/
http://www.arginineanswers.com/
http://www.proargi9.com/index.htm

Plus...

"Arginine, ornithine and lysine are amino acids. They should work
extremely well with glutamine, which is another amino acid. It is best
to take it as a dietary supplement roughly 30 minutes before physical
workout. Alternatively, it should be ingested on a relatively empty
stomach either late in the evening or early in the morning. There are
not any known side effects in the amounts taken, Arginine Ornithine
Lysine is safe and effective." From:
http://store.bodybuildingfactory.com/ultimate-nutrition-arginine-orn-lysine.html
re L-Arginine: 750mg, L-Ornithine: 750mg, and L-Lysine: 750mg

--
Curt

Will Brink
September 24th 06, 07:26 PM
In article >, "oelf92"
> wrote:

> I was going to start taking Arginine before my workouts and went the the
> local Vitamin Shoppe. The guy working there said that instead of just
> taking straight Arginine to take the combination of Arginine and Ornithine.
> So I bought 500mg Arginine / 250mg ornithine combo capsules. Any input on
> the
> combiination or difference?

Yes, you wasted even ore money by the addition of the ornithine.

>Also I read that i should take about 3mg before
> working out of Arginine but the bottle states the dose is 1 capsule. Need
> some input...

Throw in trash.


>
> Thanks!

oelf92
September 24th 06, 08:41 PM
Why do you say that ARginine isn't worth taking, i have read alot of
positive articles...



"Will Brink" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "oelf92"
> > wrote:
>
>> I was going to start taking Arginine before my workouts and went the the
>> local Vitamin Shoppe. The guy working there said that instead of just
>> taking straight Arginine to take the combination of Arginine and
>> Ornithine.
>> So I bought 500mg Arginine / 250mg ornithine combo capsules. Any input
>> on
>> the
>> combiination or difference?
>
> Yes, you wasted even ore money by the addition of the ornithine.
>
>>Also I read that i should take about 3mg before
>> working out of Arginine but the bottle states the dose is 1 capsule.
>> Need
>> some input...
>
> Throw in trash.
>
>
>>
>> Thanks!

David Cohen
September 24th 06, 09:05 PM
"oelf92" > wrote
> Why do you say that ARginine isn't worth taking, i have read alot of
> positive articles...

Six grams arginine and a quarter tab of Viagra can be very worth taking.

David
>
>
>
> "Will Brink" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >, "oelf92"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I was going to start taking Arginine before my workouts and went the the
>>> local Vitamin Shoppe. The guy working there said that instead of just
>>> taking straight Arginine to take the combination of Arginine and
>>> Ornithine.
>>> So I bought 500mg Arginine / 250mg ornithine combo capsules. Any input
>>> on
>>> the
>>> combiination or difference?
>>
>> Yes, you wasted even ore money by the addition of the ornithine.
>>
>>>Also I read that i should take about 3mg before
>>> working out of Arginine but the bottle states the dose is 1 capsule.
>>> Need
>>> some input...
>>
>> Throw in trash.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>
>

Will Brink
September 24th 06, 11:27 PM
In article >, "oelf92"
> wrote:

> Why do you say that ARginine isn't worth taking, i have read alot of
> positive articles...

Actually, no, you read articles by people that want to sell you arginine.
It does zip for muscle mass, assuming that's why you want to use it.
Arginine does have some potential health related uses however.

Will Brink
September 24th 06, 11:28 PM
In article >, "David
Cohen" > wrote:

> "oelf92" > wrote
> > Why do you say that ARginine isn't worth taking, i have read alot of
> > positive articles...
>
> Six grams arginine and a quarter tab of Viagra can be very worth taking.

I bet citrulline would work even better. Try that instead of the arg, or
combine with the arg.