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Re: my Fall marathon plan

outsideinmi — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:33:58 GMT

> Philly Marathon beckons. Not that I'll be competitive, but I will
> train within the limits of my schedule. Maintain and slightly
> increase my nearly-daily run from 45 minutes to nearly 60 minutes as
> work permits, add in one long run per week of steadily escalating
> length (maybe a 2nd longer run sometimes), try not to get hurt, try to
> keep weight trickling downwards despite the apple confections
> abounding at the farmers markets. That is the plan. Sounds like a
> decent topic, which I'll start for fun.
> -- Josh

I did a marathon (August 1) and 50k (Aug 28) so i have a good distance base.
So, if i try a fall marathon (Oct 17) the only thing i need is SPEED. The
first two events were run almost entirely on LSD - super slow distance runs
with maybe an occasional 30 minute tempo run. For the fall I'm going to try
a couple 5k tune up XC races, some serious mile intervals (4-6x 1 mile
hard). I know from reading and coaching and experience that SPEED is
necessary to run a faster marathon, but the older i get the more difficult
it is to make myself do it.

JKal.

Re: ~ * Heather on Homeless Holiday Hype * ~ What I learned while living in 2 shelters for 5 months, with a broken leg ...

Painius — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:10:48 GMT

My dearest Virginia,

"Twittering One" > wrote in message...
...
On Sep 5, 4:59 pm, Twittering One > wrote:
>
> "Carry on, Twittering, carry on."
> ~ Folly

Tell the police to leave me alone; it's not my fault I am out here.
And today I ready that frind Preston, age 71, was run down by a cab,
as reported in the NY Post today.

Preston is about the ONLY person who has spoken with me in months.

P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A P I T A

I'm sorry for your loss, Ms. V.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S. "One of life's greatest risks is never daring to risk."
> Oprah Winfrey

P.P.S.: http://astronomy.painellsworth.net
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth

Re: Oktoberfest 5k race report

dizzy — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:15:02 GMT

John Hurley wrote:

>Another 5k race blah blah blah.
>
>Ran 19:40 in cool temps. Distance on course might be a tad long. At
>mile 1 at 6 flat ( 1st goal achieved ). At mile 2 at 12:15 ... I was
>still feeling strong and pretty motivated.
>
>I passed 2 guys after mile 1 and 1 more after mile 2. Nobody went
>around me. Approx 44 seconds faster today on same race course than
>last years time.

I skipped the Labor Day 5k that I've done the last couple years.
Sunday was a drunken party stay-up-late day. 8)

Have not done a 5k yet this year, actually... Usually I do a couple.
The 10k suits me better...

Want to win some money in a race?

Michelle — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:31:08 GMT

Race in the Phoenix 10K or 5K on November 7, and you may win some cash:

Open to all entrants. Times will be based on GUN time. Setting new records
pays only one person for each record.

Incentives for 10K:
Males running a sub 31:00 ........................$100
Females running a sub 35:00 ......................$100
Set new 10k Male state record* (28:21) .........$1,000
Set new 10k Female state*record (32:25) ........$1,000
Set new Male Masters state record* (30:34) .......$100
Set new Female Masters state record* (35:55) .....$100
Set new Male 10K course record (29:49)............$100
Set new Female 10K course record (35:31)..........$100
Set new Male Masters 10K course record (32:57)....$100
Set new Female Masters 10K course record (39:03)..$100

Incentives for 5K:
Males running a sub 15:30 ��..................$50
Females running a sub 18:30 ��................$50
Set new 5K Male state record (14:07) ��........$500
Set new 5K Female state record (16:43)��.......$500
Set new 5K Male Masters state record (15:44) ��...$100
Set new 5K Female Masters state record (17:20) �..$100
Set new Male 5K course record (14:07).............$100
Set new Female 5K course record (16:41)...........$100
Set new Male Masters 5K course record (16:27).....$100
Set new Female Masters 5K course record (19:24)...$100

Non cash prizes:
Jesse Owen Award�. Fastest 1st mile in* the 10K & 5K

Run your age certificate: Run the 10K in less than your age. For example,
if I (age 67) could finish the 10K in 1:06:59 or better, I'd earn that
certificate. Someone age 35 would have to run it in 34:59 or better.

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26.2 Because I can

Re: ~ * Heather on Homeless Holiday Hype * ~ What I learned while living in 2 shelters for 5 months, with a broken leg ...

Painius — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:45:18 GMT

My dearest Twittering One,

"Twittering One" > wrote in message...
...
>
> "Carry on, Twittering, carry on."
> ~ Folly

Carry on, V.,
It's just like you--
That's all any
Of us can do.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S. "A man can fail many times, but he isn't
a failure until he gives up." > Fortune Cookie

P.P.S.: http://astronomy.painellsworth.net
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth

Re: Training week ending September 5 2010

Bart Mathias — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:22:30 GMT

On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:51:07 -0700 (PDT)
John Hurley > wrote:

> Greetings wreck runners! Please tell us about your training week and
> goals.

Tu: dnr. Had alarm set for 4am, intending 11K, but was awakened 3:30 by
throbbing left hip joint. Took safer route: stay in bed till regular 5:20.

Fr: 8K, c 57 min. No pain. (Nor any other excuse for going so slow.)

Su: Runners HI 20K, 2nd race of Recovery e 21 Marathon 2010 Readiness Series,
only my 12th 20K in spite of 31 years of running:

302 Kit Smith 215/331M 1/4 M75-79 1:54:17 9:12/M
357 Bart Mathias 239/331M 2/4 M75-79 1:59:36 9:38/M
511 Harry Siegmund 304/331M 3/4 M75-79 2:22:54 11:30/M

Believe it or not (your choice), that is not a PW. The last time I got under
two hours was 1997, my 7th 20K.

The course was a 4-mile loop, traversed three times, with start and finish on
a side street. I took 30-pace walk breaks maybe seven times in the last loop
(none before); Almost gave up when I reached the 11-mile marker in 1:45 with
almost a mile and a half to go. I came up with a good incentive package for the
Obama Administration: shorten the mile and give runners a little extra
incentive.

If you've read this far, I'll tell you something stupid I did. With half an
hour to go to race start and nothing else in particular to do, I got into the
portapotty line, just in case. After 20 minutes there were only three guys
ahead of me, for three men's portapotties. It seemed to me I might not be able
to do anything once I got in, and there were dozens behind me, so I dropped
out. I was sorry before the race started, and found a public toilet on my first
lap; did it cost me one minute? Three minutes? (There was only one guy ahead of
me there.)

For the week, two runs, 28K, about three hours.

Goal--back to that of increasing kilometrage. Can I make 39K this week?
--
Bart Mathias >

Re: Training week ending September 5 2010

Michelle — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:40:07 GMT

In article
>,
John Hurley > wrote:

> Greetings wreck runners! Please tell us about your training week and
> goals.

this week almost didn't happen. Only about 9.3 miles. *On Monday, I had
two fillings replaced, so I didn't run.

On Tuesday, I had a scheduled session with my personal trainer, but found
out that she had been promoted into a position where clients had to pay
extra for her. *And they changed the entire training paradigm for those
whose contracts called for one training session a week. *Instead of making
appointments with specific trainers, we could drop in on any open training
session during the week, but still only one a week. *You would never know
in advance how many people would show up for the session, but each session
always had the same trainer (e.g. *Aaron always conducted the 11 a.m.
session). *Also, the sessions were expanded to one hour from a half hour.

Turns out that I was the only one at the 11 a.m session, and Aaron took me
through the wringer. *We spent about 45 minutes doing active stretches;
they had me more worked out than a normal half hour on the weight machines.
Then he had me do three sets of running the length of a basketball court
six times (three round trips) followed by ten squat stretches.

The next day, DOMS set in something fierce in my quads, hamstrings, and the
right side of the small of my back. *But I tried to go out and do five
miles. *Between the heat (which I didn't have in Ohio) and the workout the
day before, I wasn't able to finish the five. *I had to walk from 4 to 4.2
miles, and finished up at 4 .6 miles.

I didn't run again until today; I was hurting too much. *I ran on the
treadmill for an hour today and did about 4 2/3 miles, plus a five-minute
cool down, for a total of 4.95 miles.

I have another session with the trainer tomorrow and will tell him that we
either have to cut back on the intensity or the time. *I can't afford to
miss more runs because of severe DOMS. *I can run through mild and even
medium DOMS, but not through the degree I had this past week.

I have ten weeks to the Iron Girl 5K and three more weeks until the Vegas
HM.

-- Michelle

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26.2 Because I can

Re: Training week ending September 5 2010

I2Run — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:43:47 GMT

| Greetings wreck runners! Please tell us about your training week and
| goals.
5 runs for 52.3 miles including a HM at comfortable pace in 1:35:26.
Need to do some shorter distance races (5M to HM) to build up *feel*
for the hard pace and cut down some distance if necessary. Didn't have
any desire to push hard in the HM though I hadn't rested much for it.

For now I have to work on getting better with the back ache, not sure
how pulled the middle of it 3 days back; but it still hurts.

Re: Training week ending September 5 2010

outsideinmi — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:33:29 GMT

"John Hurley" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings wreck runners! Please tell us about your training week and
> goals.

Monday OFF
Tuesday - easy 4
Wed - easy 6
Thursday - OFF
Friday - 12 miles at solid pace on a hilly twisty, rocky single track in
1:37
Saturday - easy 4
Sunday 13 miles at 8's, down to7:45, down to 7:20 per mile pace.

39 miles and now thinking Grand Rapids road marathon Oct 17th. Haven't done
a road marathon in 3-4 years.

Gym supplier?

Existential Angst[_2_] — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:24:50 GMT

Awl --

Iny sources? Reasonably priced?

Specifically I'm looking for heavy medicine balls, about 30#, can't find any
locally. My local sports authority, modells refers me to their website,
refuses to order them for the store.

The webplaces bang you hard for shipping, as well.

fyi, there are medicine balls over 30#, called D-balls, but horrendously,
disproportionately expensive... make DD kb's look like the bargain of the
year.

Shoulda invested in UPS....

Later I'll dig up the links I found.

--
EA

Re: Deep Muscle Stimulation Possible ?

Existential Angst[_2_] — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:20:13 GMT

"missy" > wrote in message
...
> Hey Everyone,
>
> Im currently trying to rehab a pretty terrible case of organ prolapse
> to boot with hernia meaning my abs , inner thigh, knees , pelvis are
> chronically bad.
>
> I cant get a op as it as too many areas seem to be involved to make it
> " worthwhile " so Ive been trying my best to stimualate / reawaken my
> muscles.
>
> I cant really to sit ups with the obvious hernia problem and cycling
> is just bad so I've been trying an ab belt which seems to helping a
> bit but not nearly enough enough as i want i.e. i can feel it on
> superficial level but not deep down .
>
> Can any one here suggest anything else I could try that might work ?
>
> I've already tried the Ultralieve Ultrasound - again it helps a bit
> and MCS too ( one of those $50 deals off amazon though ) but Im slowly
> running out of ideas .
>
> Most weights ( even ankle weights ) just seem to overload things and
> cause my muscles to go dead i.e. cold as freezing pins n needles
> unrepsonsive so I doubt that route would help .
>
> Thats about it , Im pretty darn furstrated with this so like i said,
> anything any one can suggest would be great.

I had a chiropractor with an ems machine, that could break one's back right
in half....
THAT would certainly the oomph to go deep, altho it would be tough to say
what the actual therapeutic results would be on you.
The point is, docs of sorts have the real equipment for this. Proly pretty
expensive, but it's not rocket science, either, proly a good DIY project for
techie.

Gentle isometrics might be a place to start for you. Sorta tough to teach,
tho, as if you yourself don't "get it", or do it properly, it would be
difficult for an observer to tell.

--
EA

>
> peace
>
> h
>
>

Shoes

K Seay — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:15:34 GMT

Is the rave gone over these celebrity endorsed tennis shoes?

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Re: Exercise for walking

Bill Grey[_2_] — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:55:32 GMT

"coas****ch" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, I know someone is going to say " the best exercise for walking is
> to go walking", but I cant get out in the country every day.
> I cant do jogging because I have problems with my knee jointsbut I
> have been going to the Gym 3-4 times a week. I am doing a variety of
> exercises, about 45 minutes of exercises on the mat doing a variety of
> crunches for my core, and various leg raises with ankle weights (doing
> about 20 reps). I dont do much strength work, maybe a couple of times
> a week, and mostly the machines for hamstring curl, quads curl and
> squats to build up my legs, with a bit of upper body stuff really just
> for balance. I also do about 45 minutes of cardio stuff, mixing up
> rowing, the stair climber, Cross-trainer and a bit on the treadmill.
> As I cant really run that much, I concentrate on brisk walking against
> a gradient. I have a strap-on heartrate monitor so I can set the
> intensity and pace of the cardio stuff to keep me in the cardio
> training range.
>
> I'm looking for ideas for exercises that will be relavant to improving
> my fitness for walking, that will stave off boredom.
>
> Any ideas or suggestions welcome.

I found he gym exercises to be far more boring than walking - especially the
tread- mill

Bill

Re: Expensive Summer

bj — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:10:32 GMT

"pithydoug" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'd suggest he train his wife just s smidgen more, if possible,
>

I'd suggest his wife train *him* a smidgen more, if possible.

He *might* then be able to do his own laundry.
bj

Wasdale Head dropped from National beer guide

Fellwalker[_3_] — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 10:31:46 GMT

Wasdale Head Inn, Cumbria
I know the reasons, long term manager retired for personal reasons, owner
made poor appointment, micro brewery departs, beer not paid for etc

Anybody been in during the last few months, are things looking up or down?
--
Mike